Why you should encourage

Your children to move out of the family home, As this ever happened
when you least expect it ?

Tonker supplied the bullets and I fired them

Today, younger people on ataining the age of eighteen no longer want to carry on living with parents like in the past and want thir own property to do the things that they woud not be allow to do if stopping with the parents.

All added to the massive house building programme while parents all ove the country are left living in house full of empty bedrooms

The more properties they build, the more morgages they sell, the more profit to be made by builders and more council tax to be made by councils.

Housing shortage my backside!

More council tax made by councils Todge?

You make it sound like a bad thing? Have councils throughout the land suddenly become money making enterprises?? Do they have shareholders and give out dividends??

Perhaps it’s not very clear to you but more council tax ultimately means more money in council coffers meaning there is more to spend on people like you and me!

Posted by: Owd Codger (2956)
"Today, younger people on ataining the age of eighteen no longer want to carry on living with parents like in the past and want thir own property to do the things that they woud not be allow to do if stopping with the parents."

You have come out with some stupid, idiotic comments in the past. And this is up there with the best of them!
Not many young people at the age of 18 ( and even older ) can obtain or even afford a mortgage repayment, Council tax, utility bills, food bills, house insurance etc.
Wherever do you get your statistics from?

It did used to be the case of moving out early, I did at 19 as most of my mates did but then, getting a 1 bed council flat was easy, It cost me less to rent a flat and feed myself because my Mother wanted half my wages for board , It was a no brainer to move out,

Thats not the case anymore, Tom. Times and people's attitudes have changed. And not all for the better I may add.
Why would any young person these days want to leave Mum & Dad, have their meals cooked, laundry done, and no bills and mortgage to pay!

Nowadays its a no brainer to stay put

Cheshire Cat

Seeing that I used to go round for a Council delivering the Electoral Registration forms and followed up knocking on doors to get the forms signed by those who had not returned them which was mainly the younger people living in their own propertites and out at work, my previous comments are may as stupid as someone who is out of touch with what goes on today where getting a mortgage is concerned, many of which no longer require a deposit.

star delta

Does that include the workshy living on benefits adding to the Councils coffers to spend on me and you?

The more you come out with comments about a Council, the more I am convinced that you work for a Council or one of our allowance gabbing Councillors

If you say so Chesh, What about orphans, children from mixed marriages, children with criminal parents , runaway kids. not everyone has a good home and not everyone with a good home will sponge of their parents because, Independence is a great feeling,

Agreed. Independence is a great feeling, Tom.
If you can afford to be independent.
Unfortunately, not everyone can

Posted by: tomplum (12215) View tomplum's page
Yea Tommy Elliot drive, those 3 storey flats that ran along side of the brook, I had a top story flat, Typical single blokes flat , No fineries , just a cooker, fridge, telly, I slept on a mattress on't floor, no carpets or curtains, Untill I met another resident who also had a flat but better domesticated , She invited me to share her flat, she house trained me and about 5 years later, We married,

Replied: 26th Feb 2024 at 18:00

I'd have stayed with mum and dad

Owd Codger

"I used to go round for a Council delivering the Electoral Registration forms and followed up knocking on doors to get the forms signed by those who had not returned them"

So did you do Worsley Mesnes

Thanks for the answer Todge, pity it has no connection whatsoever with my question but never mind. I wasn’t expecting anything sensible or pertinent from you

My daughter has always been independent . she went to Uni ,got a good job as a vet nurse and has now moved out and bought her own house at 23 ,with hardly any help from us .She has had to move out of the area though (Windermere ) as we have the problem that all affordable housing has been taken up with second homes and Airb and B she has had too move 30 miles away to Lancashire were she could afford to buy !!!

Tommy Two Stroke

No, and what gives you the idea it was even in Wigan!

star delta

You did not answer mine and when was the only time you said anything sensible other than sarcasm, the lowest form of wit?

Owd Codger:

"Tommy Two Stroke

No, and what gives you the idea it was even in Wigan!"

Doo yoo have to be so brusque

The guy who used to do that in 1980s and 90s I had quite a high regard for, because he was like a Canadian Mountie he always got his man, he would wait in blocks of flats for people, and he would never give up, he was brilliant, why don't you be like that on here, instead of being brusque

Again…..thanks for the answer Todger.

And again…..not only does it have no connection whatsoever with the question I put to you it also does nothing to support your claim.

BTW I have no connection with Wigan council, or as you sarcastically and cynically put it….’our allowance grabbing councillors’

Sarcasm and cynicism Todge? You don’t know the meaning of the words

Star delta

It was more observation on the way you are always defensive of anyone who says anything negative about about a Council, Councillors, Islamic Religion, etc, etc, etc,

As for sarcasm, I have a long way to catch up with a master of sarcasm like yourself who does it to all and sundry if they say anything which does fit in with your way of thinking.

Posters have the right to expess an opinion and you do not like the opinion, either respond to it by giving your own opinion on the topic in question in what is supposed to be a debate or like other posters say nothing!

p.s. And my description of Councillors is more fact than than cynical sarcasm as how many of them would be one if they only got travel expenses like they use to do a few years ago?

Tommy Two Stroke

Is the sarcasm of star delta to other posters and myself not Brusque?

Todger?

If you are going to describe people as sarcastic and cynical in the negative way you do you need to be squeaky clean…….. you are not and the evidence is there for all to see and it cannot be justified.

Therein contains the humour.

The way I read the situation Todger is as follows….

You see it as being perfectly acceptable to be sarcastic and cynical, overly critical and lacking in empathy whenever you see fit. However……should anyone else display these somewhat unsavoury traits you reserve the right to be critical of them and pour scorn on them, am I correct?

(Personally I think you, like several others in here (current and past) have forum daddy syndrome and can’t take the criticism back or cope with being upstaged but we can save that conversation for another time)

why are all the posts now a slanging match ?